Post your swaybar set-up

Spork · Post by **Spork** » Fri May 23, 2008 5:20 am

jpciii;116353 wrote:That isn't really true... past auto-x champs (who drove ef hatches) went with really big bars in the rear and really small (crx hf) bars in front, or no front bar at all up front. If you think your car suffers from understeer (I assume that is your complaint because that is EVERY honda racer's complaint), stiffen the rear more... higher spring rates in the rear and stiff dampers in the rear would also help.

go to the tech page at redshift motorsports for more details...

http://www.redshiftmotorsports.com/

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I have read things like that, and I know there are guys that prefer nothing, or very little upfront. I guess I was only comparing the 'big' bar options. No sense in someone forking out $200 for a front swaybar when they can get one for $20 at the junkyard... there is also a writeup I read about someone using a 24mm(?) bar from a first gen integra on their EF.

I'm personally not going to run without a bar in front... but my cars aren't autox cars either. The last month or so, I ran my hatch with just a DA bar in front and nothing on the back and honestly, the car felt really good. It felt much smoother around the offramps (this is a daily driver after all, but I take them pretty hard) than the car did with the stock front bar and the 22mm rear.The car seemed to hold its line much more easily than the original set up. Thats why I want to run the DA bar with the 22 in back. I know that I might run into issues with some one tire fire since Im still running an open diff, but I don't usually do a whole lot of really hard acceleration out of turns and since I dont race the car, I think it will work great for my application.

Tyler · Post by **Tyler** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:18 am

i dont really know anything about suspension, so what is a cheap and good set-up for an ej1?

big pipe · Post by **big pipe** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:29 am

i got my wrx to "oversteer", (almost impossible)
stock "sti" front
32mm cusco solid rear (old school)
whiteline/kartboy adjustable endlinks (set to kill)

Fun Fun Fun Fun Fun Fun Fun Fun!@#$%^&*()!!!
smoking all 4 tires sideways will make you hornier than youve ever been!!!!!@!@#$%^&*()

the accord is still stock waiting for me to crawl my fat ass under it and put in the" suspension technique" "ebay specials"

i'll post the updates

jpciii · Post by **jpciii** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:52 pm

Spork;116384 wrote:I have read things like that, and I know there are guys that prefer nothing, or very little upfront. I guess I was only comparing the 'big' bar options. No sense in someone forking out $200 for a front swaybar when they can get one for $20 at the junkyard... there is also a writeup I read about someone using a 24mm(?) bar from a first gen integra on their EF.

I'm personally not going to run without a bar in front... but my cars aren't autox cars either. The last month or so, I ran my hatch with just a DA bar in front and nothing on the back and honestly, the car felt really good. It felt much smoother around the offramps (this is a daily driver after all, but I take them pretty hard) than the car did with the stock front bar and the 22mm rear.The car seemed to hold its line much more easily than the original set up. Thats why I want to run the DA bar with the 22 in back. I know that I might run into issues with some one tire fire since Im still running an open diff, but I don't usually do a whole lot of really hard acceleration out of turns and since I dont race the car, I think it will work great for my application.

The big-in-back, small-in-front setup will help with quick directional changes, transitions (throwing the car into a sharp corner, slalom, etc) and hard, sharp cornering (hairpin)... basically, the type of stuff you'd see on an auto-x course. It absolutely helps promote off-throttle oversteer. You gotta be careful decelerating through a sharp corner, because the ass end can whip around on you. At higher speeds, it can definitely feel twitchy. I've never experienced having no front bar... I'm with you, I don't think I would want that setup on my daily either.

eh2_Erik · Post by **eh2_Erik** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:59 am

Tyler;116403 wrote:i dont really know anything about suspension, so what is a cheap and good set-up for an ej1?

GSR front and Rear swaybars.

Tyler · Post by **Tyler** » Sat May 24, 2008 7:02 am

eh2_Erik;116541 wrote:GSR front and Rear swaybars.

thats exactly what i was thinking about getting. would i be able to find them at pick n pull or another junkyard? and about how much are they if anyone knows?

sorry to keep thread-jacking......

jpciii · Post by **jpciii** » Sat May 24, 2008 3:04 pm

I bought a DA sway with endlinks from PnP and I think it was like $11. Good luck finding a GSR, though.

Spork, I'm going with a ST bar so you can have my rear DA bar (from a 2 door) if you want to experiment...

Spork · Post by **Spork** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:00 pm

I have a 22 for the back, and I really love the way the car handled with it on, so I don't really want to change that... but I might be interested in swapping it out just so that I can feel the difference back to back.

eh2_Erik · Post by **eh2_Erik** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:44 pm

Tyler;116547 wrote:thats exactly what i was thinking about getting. would i be able to find them at pick n pull or another junkyard? and about how much are they if anyone knows?

sorry to keep thread-jacking......

yeah, they would be hard to find at a pick n pull, i found mine on a parts car. if you're interested, i believe we have a gsr front swaybar somewhere in jamey's garage, and i have an LS rear swaybar. the ls rear is 13mm.

stlsupra · Post by **stlsupra** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:57 pm

ST 22mm set full stiff in back
stock Si in front (been looking for a dx to swap out)

tokico's set full hard in back and full soft in front.

i still seem to get the car to push but with some pedal management the rear end swings into place.