N/A upgrades

Teg-Potential · Post by **Teg-Potential** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:42 pm

I kno that cams are a huge part to N/A motors and yet i also know that you can't just upgrade the cams by themselves and assume more power. or can you? i was thinking about a power upgrade like this package i found. http://www.modacar.com/products/Acura/Integra/SCIPP04/Skunk2+Civic-Integra+Powe.html

SO i have heard that skunk 2 is pretty good dealer, and is this package decent? if i dont' go with the package, is it a good idea to replace my stock retainers/springs and cam gears when replacing and upgrading the cams.

thanks

Digital Sol · Post by **Digital Sol** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:09 pm

Teg-Potential;124920 wrote:I kno that cams are a huge part to N/A motors and yet i also know that you can't just upgrade the cams by themselves and assume more power. or can you? i was thinking about a power upgrade like this package i found. http://www.modacar.com/products/Acura/Integra/SCIPP04/Skunk2+Civic-Integra+Powe.html

SO i have heard that skunk 2 is pretty good dealer, and is this package decent? if i dont' go with the package, is it a good idea to replace my stock retainers/springs and cam gears when replacing and upgrading the cams.

thanks

i wouldnt do any headwork or cams until you upgrade the smaller items first such as'

aem cai+bpi velocity stack
good header, profab/hytech/smsp
good exhaust

than fuel management+tuning'

still want more than id looking into a head package and some larger cam's, how-ever i personally would go with supertech valve train', skunk2 makes good products i just think there are better products availible for the money

are we talking about a stock gsr motor here? need more information on your set-up'

xslickwhitetegx · Post by **xslickwhitetegx** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:32 pm

dont get aem CAI, they are woorthless, get Comptech Icebox... that has best hp gains out of any intake plus it looks stealth..

but ya Ditigal sol laid it all out for you... you can always up grade the clutch and throw in short shiffter too for good measure..

JustRob · Post by **JustRob** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:07 pm

xslickwhitetegx;124929 wrote:dont get aem CAI, they are woorthless, get Comptech Icebox... that has best hp gains out of any intake plus it looks stealth..

but ya Ditigal sol laid it all out for you... you can always up grade the clutch and throw in short shiffter too for good measure..

BPI Velocity Stack + 3" piping>Comptech Icebox

Teg-Potential wrote:SO i have heard that skunk 2 is pretty good dealer, and is this package decent? if i dont' go with the package, is it a good idea to replace my stock retainers/springs and cam gears when replacing and upgrading the cams.

For the most part, its is always recommended to upgrade valve springs when getting upgraded cam/cams. And adjustable cam gears will definitely help with tuning, especially w/ S2 Stage 2's.

N2HIFI · Post by **N2HIFI** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:40 am

xslickwhitetegx;124929 wrote:dont get aem CAI, they are woorthless, get Comptech Icebox... that has best hp gains out of any intake plus it looks stealth..

WRONG as rob and Richie both stated BPI stack and short ram intake OWN all

makes the most PROVEN HP track and dyno

Read and become educated
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1680044

xslickwhitetegx;124929 wrote: but ya Ditigal sol laid it all out for you... you can always up grade the clutch and throw in short shiffter too for good measure..

why a short throw and a clutch wont make any more HP so they are a waste of money UNLESS they are bad

xslickwhitetegx · Post by **xslickwhitetegx** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:39 am

eh i forgot about the 3" tubing but like a whole .25" will make a huge diffrence in the tubing!

i'd still go w/ comptech anyways, next your going to tell me whale penis actually has some function to it, instead of the "look" value... Jokin

Teg-Potential · Post by **Teg-Potential** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:37 pm

Ok... well actually i'm runnin the stock ls motor with Injen SRI. is my only real power adder. (have a short shifter installed already) Clutch is solid for now. I just figured i would go for internals since like a DC header and greddy exhaust won't add much for HP?? i kno a race header will but i don't think i'm down to deal with that hassle of trying to trick the emissions testing and what not. and is hondata still a decent ecu? about a year ago i was looking at a Hondata s200. and i'm lookin to get the most bang for my buck (~1500-2000). But don't wanna just slap some shit on there to get some great power for like a week. trying to do it right and keep the acura reliability.

5thgen · Post by **5thgen** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:27 pm

Teg-Potential;125027 wrote:Ok... well actually i'm runnin the stock ls motor with Injen SRI. is my only real power adder. (have a short shifter installed already) Clutch is solid for now. I just figured i would go for internals since like a DC header and greddy exhaust won't add much for HP?? i kno a race header will but i don't think i'm down to deal with that hassle of trying to trick the emissions testing and what not. and is hondata still a decent ecu? about a year ago i was looking at a Hondata s200. and i'm lookin to get the most bang for my buck (~1500-2000). But don't wanna just slap some shit on there to get some great power for like a week. trying to do it right and keep the acura reliability.

In my opinion n/a is a waste of time. Cost can get as high as a simple turbo setup.

Look into ectune either way to get it tuned, probably the best rom tuning program out there.

JustRob · Post by **JustRob** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:27 pm

xslickwhitetegx;125014 wrote:eh i forgot about the 3" tubing but like a whole .25" will make a huge diffrence in the tubing!

i'd still go w/ comptech anyways, next your going to tell me whale penis actually has some function to it, instead of the "look" value... Jokin

Yes, its does make a difference. Its a plus to experiment with different size and lengths of piping on the dyno to get the best results. Either way, the end result is much better then the Comptech intake.

Teg-Potential · Post by **Teg-Potential** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:05 pm

true that NA is expensive.. but for the simple things like exhaust/ecu header all can be replaced and prob should be before u go turbo. so exhaust and ecu and header is more like a base rather than going either N/A or F/I
.... and ECtune? ok ill chekc it out thanks