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99RedBalloons;151977 wrote:I have an issue with (except democrats and the majority of people living in the "projects" ) <---that. :) We happen to live in a country that gives more hand outs to businesses than to people in the "projects" or poor people. In fact, I've heard on several occasions that we have a corporate welfare government.
giving "handouts" to large business=shitty, we are there right now
giving "handouts" to SMALL business=employing of more workers
giving "handouts" to people who contribute nothing to this society=shittyiest of all. if you are not smart enough to know how to make a living, why should we trust you to spend someone else's? if you are not smart enough to realize you cant afford a house, and you buy it, why should we blame someone else?
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99RedBalloons;151977 wrote:I have an issue with (except democrats and the majority of people living in the "projects" ) <---that. :) We happen to live in a country that gives more hand outs to businesses than to people in the "projects" or poor people. In fact, I've heard on several occasions that we have a corporate welfare government.

I hate to state the obvious, but you do know that "project" housing, is government subsidized housing? And that is where the nickname "projects" comes from i.e. government housing projects.
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94gsr;151796 wrote:i do agree that credit is a big reason to blame, just like the billions the gov'mt is speding on the war. We def don't have that kind of money to spend which is causing inflation.
While this may be true it is money well spent. IMO. Yes some of it may not have been needed, but if it keeps the troops safe and properly equiped(SP) as well as the war over there instead of in our backyards then spend away.
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taxing small business will inevitably hurt the middle class. you tax them, they have less money to pay workers and provide health care. people will lose jobs. taking from the rich and giving to the poor is bullshit and will not help our financial crisis.

Truth, taxing small business will not make things better if you are going to tax a business tax large corp. I have worked for a family owned and operated business for just over 5 years and to be honest their proffit is not that high. The owners are very open with the full budget and all aspects that go with it.


As for this bailout I think it is BS its going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer IMO, because everyone that is good with their money is going to continue to save and be smart with the money and most others that have trouble paying bills will continue to do the same and blow it on stupid shit (excluding the people who were once gainfully imployed but have lost their jobs and can not pay bills for that reason). Bassicaly passing the bailout gives the ok to be irresponsable with your money.

Hay lets go get 21 billion dollars in debt, its ok dont work if we cry to the govenment they will help us out. LAME

Finally I hate to say it but maybe another depression would be a good thing. I think it might teach people to be more responsible with their spending. Look at your gradparents if they lived through the last I bet they are very carefull how they spend their money. My fathers parents lived through it and they rarely bought something they didnt have a need for with the exception of a few vacations.

That is all for now.
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Somebody get me some tits to stimulate my package. I need something to nurse on until this "discussion" is over, aka, when we're back up and everybody is taking it for granted, again.
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SikofFalln;152022 wrote:I hate to state the obvious, but you do know that "project" housing, is government subsidized housing? And that is where the nickname "projects" comes from i.e. government housing projects.
troof.
bildo16;152016 wrote:giving "handouts" to large business=shitty, we are there right now
giving "handouts" to SMALL business=employing of more workers
giving "handouts" to people who contribute nothing to this society=shittyiest of all. if you are not smart enough to know how to make a living, why should we trust you to spend someone else's? if you are not smart enough to realize you cant afford a house, and you buy it, why should we blame someone else?
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99RedBalloons;151977 wrote:I have an issue with (except democrats and the majority of people living in the "projects" ) <---that. :) We happen to live in a country that gives more hand outs to businesses than to people in the "projects" or poor people. In fact, I've heard on several occasions that we have a corporate welfare government.
FALSE. i do totally disagree with the bailout but this isnt something that happens often. welfare costs taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars a year. part of the reason for the financial crisis is the amount of money needed to keep welfare programs going. public housing, social security, medicaid and medicare, food stamps, TANF....the list goes on and on. not to mention the drain on our economy from illegal immigrants! hospitals on the border are going bankrupt left and right.

example: a senior citizen couple that makes less than 100k a year pays a combined total of $200 per month for Medicare. a senior citizen couple that makes $100,001 pays almost $1000 per month.

example: as a social worker, most of my clients are on disability. they receive around $850/month and do not pay income taxes. their healthcare is funded by taxpayers. THEY RECEIVED A STIMULUS CHECK (some actually got two at $500 each) AND TAX CREDITS ($750)! how the hell does that make sense? i'm paying their income, their housing, their bills, healthcare, etc and they are still making money! they don't pay any taxes yet they get money back! because they are on disability, they have special programs that allow for housing with rent $100, Ameren charges them $20/mo (even in the summer) and similiar with Laclede Gas and ATT gives them an $8/mo phone package.


when you give corporations "handouts" and/or tax breaks, in the long run it helps consumers aka middle class. you help the oil companies, they help us. you help businesses, they have more money to pay workers and lower prices on their products. you raise their taxes, and they have to start cutting corners.

i'm not against the welfare program by any means. there are people in this country that legitmately need it. i work with those people everyday. however, there is a larger number of people that take advantage of the system. unfortunately i see that everyday too. they receive disability checks, claim they can't work, have kids because they are "meal tickets" and they receive more money. when you're in the system long enuf you learn how to work it. they get side jobs to pull in cash but don't have a checking or savings account. they buy everything in cash so the govt can't see they have any assets. i drive into the projects everyday. some of them are nicer than my house and in the streets are caddys, mercedes, bmws, etc. they dress better than i do and spend money like its nobody's business. i'm sorry, but i dont agree that we should be giving them MORE money.
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getteg;152035 wrote:While this may be true it is money well spent. IMO. Yes some of it may not have been needed, but if it keeps the troops safe and properly equiped(SP) as well as the war over there instead of in our backyards then spend away.




Truth, taxing small business will not make things better if you are going to tax a business tax large corp. I have worked for a family owned and operated business for just over 5 years and to be honest their proffit is not that high. The owners are very open with the full budget and all aspects that go with it.


As for this bailout I think it is BS its going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer IMO, because everyone that is good with their money is going to continue to save and be smart with the money and most others that have trouble paying bills will continue to do the same and blow it on stupid shit (excluding the people who were once gainfully imployed but have lost their jobs and can not pay bills for that reason). Bassicaly passing the bailout gives the ok to be irresponsable with your money.

Hay lets go get 21 billion dollars in debt, its ok dont work if we cry to the govenment they will help us out. LAME

Finally I hate to say it but maybe another depression would be a good thing. I think it might teach people to be more responsible with their spending. Look at your gradparents if they lived through the last I bet they are very carefull how they spend their money. My fathers parents lived through it and they rarely bought something they didnt have a need for with the exception of a few vacations.

That is all for now.
here's my idea. instead of using $700 billion for bailing out corps, lets give every American a million bucks to stimulate the economy. do the math. there's $700 bil and 305 mil people. that will get us going
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i blame the democrats...

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im confused on why gas is so low
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