F22 Aftermarket?

jsanders · Post by **jsanders** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:22 pm

Hey everyone, was not sure where to post this one. But here it goes. I was wondering if anybody knew of other companies and websites that sold F22 aftermarket parts. Bisimoto is the only one I know of, but even he does not have everything I'm looking for. Such as ARP head/main bolts, rod bearings, valves ect ect. Gonna be starting the project motor here soon and if I can find better than OEM that would be great. So if you know of other companies, and or websites that have these things available for the F-Series Honda motors please post up!

Thanks!

~Josh :007:

twkdcd595 · Post by **twkdcd595** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:07 pm

There is not as strong of an aftermarket for the F22 as is for the B series obviously but with some searching and some researching you will find parts options... albiet not as many choices though.

For ARP head studs, use H23 head studs. Same dimensions.

OEM for main bolts are fine for anything you can probably throw at em, if you just had to have ARP's for mains use H23/ H22 main studs. Same dimensions.

OEM for bearing give you the best choices of sizes but I am sure with a little check maybe ACL, Clevite, King, etc. have some limited offerings that would work as well.

OEM of course but Ferrera for aftermarket valves if you wanting something better.

Pistons and rods you have a couple routes you can go. Depends on whats your looking for end product, how much power they need to handle, how much you wanna spend, etc.

jsanders · Post by **jsanders** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:57 pm

twkdcd595;239537 wrote:There is not as strong of an aftermarket for the F22 as is for the B series obviously but with some searching and some researching you will find parts options... albiet not as many choices though.

For ARP head studs, use H23 head studs. Same dimensions.

OEM for main bolts are fine for anything you can probably throw at em, if you just had to have ARP's for mains use H23/ H22 main studs. Same dimensions.

OEM for bearing give you the best choices of sizes but I am sure with a little check maybe ACL, Clevite, King, etc. have some limited offerings that would work as well.

OEM of course but Ferrera for aftermarket valves if you wanting something better.

Pistons and rods you have a couple routes you can go. Depends on whats your looking for end product, how much power they need to handle, how much you wanna spend, etc.

Thanks for all of that info! I was originally gonna build up a Z6 but when I ran across this B1 I could not pass it up. Not for the price I paid for it, and like you said it's a bit uncommon for somebody to swap a F22 into an EK.

twkdcd595 · Post by **twkdcd595** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:21 pm

It is a less common swap and a very cool one at that IMO.

I have an f22b1 myself so I am glad to help another f series owner with what little I have picked up over time modding my own. I am more than willing to tell you anything I know and have not forgot yet.

02Type-S · Post by **02Type-S** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:25 pm

I saw a super street issue i think it was, with a 89 hatch with an F22 swap turbo'd, ran 11s and he had about 4-5k in the whole project, car included.

twkdcd595 · Post by **twkdcd595** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:52 pm

Did not catch that issue, sounds like redzcstandardhatch on honda-tech.com. He has an F22aX in like a 90ish hatch that ran pretty good. Was a basically stock motor with an intake manifold and turbo kit he made... think he was tuning it himself. Made like low 400whp range I believe last I heard probably over a year back.

02Type-S · Post by **02Type-S** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:55 pm

twkdcd595;239589 wrote:Did not catch that issue, sounds like redzcstandardhatch on honda-tech.com. He has an F22aX in like a 90ish hatch that ran pretty good. Was a stock motor with an intake manifold and turbo kit he made... think he was tuning it himself. Made like low 400whp range I believe last I heard probably over a year back.

Sounds like it. On widened steelies

jsanders · Post by **jsanders** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:11 pm

twkdcd595;239555 wrote:It is a less common swap and a very cool one at that IMO.

I have an f22b1 myself so I am glad to help another f series owner with what little I have picked up over time modding my own. I am more than willing to tell you anything I know and have not forgot yet.

Thanks for all your help so far, it is greatly appreciated for I will probably have a lot of questions. This is my first Honda, was an ex DSM guy. But I'm in love with Honda already haha. Yeah, I didn't strive to go out and do something different. But I see the huge potential that the F-Series has. I do want to build it right the first time. So research, research, research! I would like to break the 400whp range on boost with this motor it is just all about the tuning.

twkdcd595 · Post by **twkdcd595** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:06 pm

Well another tip you may have already picked up, the F22/ F23 motors have iron sleeves in them right from the factory unlike other Honda motors. So they are pretty darn strong block/ sleeves. The stock pistons are the weak point, like most hondas they dont like any detonation and will crack/ break the ring landings if you do have any from per say a less than great tune or other short comings in the setup.

For 400whp, just my 2 cents but if I were going your route I would clean up the stock sleeves with a bit of an overbore to fit a new set of forged pistons, some decent rods, new bearings (OEM, ACL, Clevite, etc. whomever you choose that has the proper sizes), ARP head studs, new OEM oil pump/ water pump/ timing belt/ headgasket, and so on normal rebuild items. Maybe clean up the head a little if needed and do springs/ retainers/ keepers if in the budget.

Would be a solid fresh motor that can get you to your goal of 400whp safely with a decent turbo setup and the proper tuning/ management/ fuel setup.

twkdcd595 · Post by **twkdcd595** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:41 pm

Just to add.

Dont get me wrong just over 400+whp has been done on a stock motor so its do-able to make some great power without rebuilding right off the bat and these motors are definately unestimated. I would be cautious if you decided to push a stocker toward that goal unless your prepared and ok with the possibility that shit happens. Especially if this is a daily driver or critical transportation for you. Better safe than sorry if it is imo.

I was on my bone stock motor for a while making 335whp (stoped there cause I maxed out my injectors) and eventually killed it after almost a year with a boost spike to pressures I was not tuned for. I had no boost cut setup in my hondata to prevent it from happening (was my fault completely with what happened) and it cracked a ring landing. If that would not have happened I would have probably put more injector in it at that point to lean on it some more... but thats been some years ago. Anyways made great power and took a hard beating regularly from me but still have to be prepared if a small slip up happens like it did, you can tear up stock pistons and be pulling out a motor. If thats your daily (fortunately it was not for me) it could really jam you up.