Leaking oil from head gasket

slammeds2k · Post by **slammeds2k** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:38 am

Before you flame me on this I had just recently changed my headgasket and i used arp headstuds. I have heard that you are suposed to exceed the 22 foot pounds with the instal of these. I only torked to the honda requirements "22lb". Could this have caused my oil trickle problem. I am leaking oil right below the tensionall timing tensioner. I also used gasket sealer in the designated place around the timing chain im just lost. Im tempted to remove the v cover and cams and rockers and just retork.. Help!!!!

risktypes · Post by **risktypes** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:52 am

I am curious, did you torque them to spec in a certain order (usually your manual will tell you which order) or did you just torque them as you felt to torque them but to torqued spec?

slammeds2k · Post by **slammeds2k** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:03 am

yes of coarse

slammeds2k · Post by **slammeds2k** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:16 am

I barely leaks there is no compression in that area it all exits through the pcv to be honest im not sure why its even leaking at all

5thgen · Post by **5thgen** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:47 am

slammeds2k;130050 wrote:Before you flame me on this I had just recently changed my headgasket and i used arp headstuds. I have heard that you are suposed to exceed the 22 foot pounds with the instal of these. I only torked to the honda requirements "22lb". Could this have caused my oil trickle problem. I am leaking oil right below the tensionall timing tensioner. I also used gasket sealer in the designated place around the timing chain im just lost. Im tempted to remove the v cover and cams and rockers and just retork.. Help!!!!

22 foot pounds for head studs?

50-80 sounds more like the range it should be at.

edit:
It looks like 22 ft. pounds is the first step. The manual says you then tighten all the bolts 90 degrees for a "second step". And another 90 degrees for a "third step". I don't know what that equals with arp studs though.

Gunmetal Si · Post by **Gunmetal Si** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:06 pm

5thgen;130082 wrote:22 foot pounds for head studs?

50-80 sounds more like the range it should be at.

edit:
It looks like 22 ft. pounds is the first step. The manual says you then tighten all the bolts 90 degrees for a "second step". And another 90 degrees for a "third step". I don't know what that equals with arp studs though.

ok
when using arp headstuds or anyother arp product, u use the spec that arp tells u. and rick is correct, most of the honda headstuds i have used have said 70-80 ft/lbs. where are the instruction that came with ur headstuds???????????? this really aggrevates me

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?sh ... ry13896913

i see u already got ur answers on s2ki. next time homeboy just ask before doing it

Waffles · Post by **Waffles** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:10 pm

Wow, I have never heard of any head stud(or bolt) requiring 20 ft/lbs

Honestly if you didnt catch that, maybe its time to have someone experanced work on your motor. I know both Dale(GUNMETAL SI) and Rick(Rickles8099) have alot of experance with honda engines. You might want to PM one of them for help.

Waffles · Post by **Waffles** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:20 pm

Just an FYI ARP head studs should be torqued to 80ft/lb with ARP moly lube and 120ft/lb if using motor oil and in the correct pattern

m6speed · Post by **m6speed** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:29 pm

lol listen to 5th gen, 20ft lbs is the 1st sequence, then you go to about 70-80ft lbs.

rickles8099 · Post by **rickles8099** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:04 pm

m6speed;130107 wrote:lol listen to 5th gen, 20ft lbs is the 1st sequence, then you go to about 70-80ft lbs.

actually theres a second step in there before the 70-80lbs. i know on sohc engines most of the torque specs are 1st step ~29ft/lbs, 2nd step ~48ft/lbs, 3rd step ~48ft/lbs, and then fourth step of ~48ft/lbs again.

when putting on head studs i do steps 1-3 and then my add my own step of the 70ft/lbs and add a 5th step of 70ft/lbs again.

oh and the most important things of all..... clean the gasket surfaces so that you can eat off of them AND follow the torque spec sequence found in any haynes, chiltons, alldata manuals.