Those of you running an LS/VTEC!! pleas read

N2HIFI · Post by **N2HIFI** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:50 pm

nothing you just drop the oil pan, remove the windage try, the oil pump and swap them out .. take about 3 hours with the motor in the car

eh2_Erik · Post by **eh2_Erik** » Sat May 10, 2008 5:49 pm

N2HIFI;114137 wrote:nothing you just drop the oil pan, remove the windage try, the oil pump and swap them out .. take about 3 hours with the motor in the car

alright, i did hear about that, and i wouldnt have to take the crank out or anything. i will do that then, along with new rings.

thanks Chris! you know everything.

edit: now i've been lookin at OEM GSR pistons to up my compression. if i were to get All OEM Pistons, Rods and Rod bolts, would i need the ARP if im running GSR rod bolts?

Midori · Post by **Midori** » Sat May 10, 2008 7:06 pm

i say you get the rod bolts, get rings for your LS pistons out it all together, drive it.

eh2_Erik · Post by **eh2_Erik** » Sat May 10, 2008 7:13 pm

actually im looking into P30 pistons because they will fit ls rods with no modification to the rod. they will give me more compression than ITR pistons, but less than CTR pistons.

its just my budget is so damn tight on this. $300 for OEM honda P30 pistons, rings, and wrist pins.

Silver Knight · Post by **Silver Knight** » Sat May 10, 2008 10:22 pm

eh2_Erik;114033 wrote:Who is running an LS/VTEC?

i know chris and allex are.

are you guys using ARP rod bolts?

no im using stock right now. i have arp rod bolts but not for much longer

eh2_Erik;114243 wrote:alright, i did hear about that, and i wouldnt have to take the crank out or anything. i will do that then, along with new rings.

thanks Chris! you know everything.

edit: now i've been lookin at OEM GSR pistons to up my compression. if i were to get All OEM Pistons, Rods and Rod bolts, would i need the ARP if im running GSR rod bolts?

i got itr pistons/rings ya know :wall:

N2HIFI · Post by **N2HIFI** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:04 am

damnit*;114303 wrote:Uhm, the 8mm bolts just slip into the rods and dont have to be pressed in? I dunno, but I find this hard to believe.

Either way, the old rod bolts have to be pressed out before the new ones can be pressed in. When this is done, the big end of the rod will need reconditioned because it will be out of round.

-rod bolts dont need to be pressed in or out

-but what you were refering to the warping of the big end of the rods is explained in the quote taken from this thread
http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-artic ... tec-85477/
-"Everyone who is anyone will now agree, that it is MANDATORY that you install ARP rod bolts. LS rod bolts are the same exact rod bolts that come factory in sohc dseries motors. This is THE single point of failure on LS blocks. It's not the rods, or anything else, it's the rivet sized rod bolts. Upgrade to ARP rod bolts! Now for the rods, if you plan on staying with the stock rods, which is perfectly fine, it would be smart to shotpeen them. This will improve the tensile strength of the rod. Just a small piece of mind when you're at 9k. Some shops charge extra for this, some include it with there rebuilds...but either way, it's cheap so do it. You should also have your rod's journal's (big ends) resized when you install ARP rod bolts. Alot of people will say it's not necessary, but ARP recommends it. Pay the extra few bucks to have this done, again for peace of mind. ARP doesn't make any money off of this, so why do they recommend it? Because the extra torque placed on the rods using their rod bolts has the tendency to "warp" the big end of the rods."

kra95civic · Post by **kra95civic** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:12 am

well i understand being low on cash...second i do belive that driver error is 95% or all engine problems and 5% the build and what you put into it...if you put sum good parts in and some shitty ones everything u think that is good is shit...basicly....ur just wasting your time so get all the parts u need first and put it all together....its a long process....i been saving for 6 months to do my build and dale has kicked my ass a few times about asking questions...but dale, GMR, tom, and steph to touch my car....

Silver Knight · Post by **Silver Knight** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:26 am

thats because your car is a whore

eh2_Erik · Post by **eh2_Erik** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:39 am

Whoo! yay for a cleaned up thread lol

yeah, im just gonna save up. since im getting the rod bolts, im gonna get new pistons to up my compression while im at it, because ya know, why not.

damnit* · Post by damnit* » Sun May 11, 2008 1:55 am

Sorry for the clutter in your thread man.