2.5" or 3" exhaust?

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rickles8099;14417 wrote:i would think that an overpopulation of exhaust gases in the exhaust system would be more restrictive than bigger molecules.

whats more restrictive in a hallway.... too many people trying to go one direction or a couple of fat people trying to go one direction?
think of it like this a good sized hallway full of marathon runners going in one direction or a huge hallway full of fat people moving in the same direction

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Turbos

Another object that might be sitting in your exhaust flow is a turbine from a turbocharger. If that is the case, we envy you.

Not only that, but turbos introduce a bit of backpressure to your exhaust system, thus making it a bit quieter. All of the typical scavenging rules still apply, but with a twist. Mufflers work really well now! Remember, one of the silencing methods is restriction, and a turbine is just that, a restriction.

This is actually where the term "turbo muffler" is coined. Since a turbine does a pretty good job of silencing, OEM turbo mufflers can do a lot less restricting to quiet things down. Of course, aftermarket manufacturers took advantage of this performance image and branded a lot of their products with the "turbo" name in order to drum up more business from the high performance crowd. We're sad to say that the term "turbo" has been bastardized in this respect, and would like that to serve as a warning. A "turbo" muffler is not necessarily a high-performance muffler.
Pipe Sizing

We've seen quiet a few "experienced" racers tell people that a bigger exhaust is a better exhaust. Hahaha… NOT.

As discussed earlier, exhaust gas is hot. And we'd like to keep it hot throughout the exhaust system. Why? The answer is simple. Cold air is dense air, and dense air is heavy air. We don't want our engine to be pushing a heavy mass of exhaust gas out of the tailpipe. An extremely large exhaust pipe will cause a slow exhaust flow, which will in turn give the gas plenty of time to cool off en route. Overlarge piping will also allow our exhaust pulses to achieve a higher level of entropy, which will take all of our header tuning and throw it out the window, as pulses will not have the same tendency to line up as they would in a smaller pipe. Coating the entire exhaust system with an insulative material, such as header wrap or a ceramic thermal barrier coating reduces this effect somewhat, but unless you have lots of cash burning a hole in your pocket, is probably not worth the expense on a street driven car.

Unfortunately, we know of no accurate way to calculate optimal exhaust pipe diameter. This is mainly due to the random nature of an exhaust system -- things like bends or kinks in the piping, temperature fluctuations, differences in muffler design, and the lot, make selecting a pipe diameter little more than a guessing game. For engines making 250 to 350 horsepower, the generally accepted pipe diameter is 3 to 3 � inches. Over that amount, you'd be best off going to 4 inches. If you have an engine making over 400 to 500 horsepower, you'd better be happy capping off the fun with a 4 inch exhaust. Ah, the drawbacks of horsepower. The best alternative here would probably be to just run open
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well which one is it. between the two of you, one has something that says 3 inch for between 250 and 350hp and the other claims to have something that says 3 inch for over 500 hp. sounds like one of the two or both may have some bad info in them.

and stolle, since you seem to dislike the 3 inch exhaust. just put 2.5 on there. it already seems to me like you have your decision already and just looking for people to back you up even if they go with what you have decided or not.
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rickles8099;14423 wrote:well which one is it. between the two of you, one has something that says 3 inch for between 250 and 350hp and the other claims to have something that says 3 inch for over 500 hp. sounds like one of the two or both may have some bad info in them.

and stolle, since you seem to dislike the 3 inch exhaust. just put 2.5 on there. it already seems to me like you have your decision already and just looking for people to back you up even if they go with what you have decided or not.
i dont have my mind made up i dont dislike the 3" exhaust i just dont want to pay that much im actually leaning towards 3" just because i dont want to have to pay for exhaust twice just incase i do end up making more hp. that and i want my car to sound slike yours rick...
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budget_crx;14412 wrote:from what i remember 3" single pipe exhaust was only needed if you were making over 500hp.
rickles8099;14423 wrote:well which one is it. between the two of you, one has something that says 3 inch for between 250 and 350hp and the other claims to have something that says 3 inch for over 500 hp. sounds like one of the two or both may have some bad info in them.
not the most legit source :dunno:
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stolle;14424 wrote:i dont have my mind made up i dont dislike the 3" exhaust i just dont want to pay that much im actually leaning towards 3" just because i dont want to have to pay for exhaust twice just incase i do end up making more hp. that and i want my car to sound slike yours rick...
im sure you would have no problem selling a complete 2.5" exhaust system for a CRX though
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3in, considering you probaly have 2.25 or 2 ,why not just spend the little more money and upgrade, it wont hurt, otherwise, down the line it will consist of selling the 2.5in exhaust and buying a 3.

Personal experience is my argument. And it cost a lot more in the longrun.
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my idea for my exhaust has clearance issues which is why i want some comments between 2.5" and 3". 2.5" would give me more clearance but in the long run i think 3" would be better.
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andyjt;14429 wrote:3in, considering you probaly have 2.25 or 2 ,why not just spend the little more money and upgrade, it wont hurt, otherwise, down the line it will consist of selling the 2.5in exhaust and buying a 3.

Personal experience is my argument. And it cost a lot more in the longrun.
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get both + a cutout.

I was pulled over 4 or 5 times for loud exhaust. So I just made my own 2.5 back exhaust off of a 3 inch downpipe with a cutout. My old 3" exhaust was just too loud for me driving on the highway at 3500-3700 rpm.

My brother has a b16 with a cutout though.....and that motor is so much quieter than mine when the cutout is open.
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