My 12.5 comp. street motor

exnissanguy · Post by **exnissanguy** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:16 pm

Turtle_Civic;284774 wrote:That was a stock b1. Bolt on gsr will do way better than that especially with a tune. Yes this is all my opinion. I just dont see the reason in putting money in a d when you caint make as much power.

You can make power, torque may he lacking, bit ive seen a few badass d series put down descent hp, you just have to be smart with how its put together, tuning etc

Turtle_Civic · Post by **Turtle_Civic** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:55 pm

Yea decent power. Now how much would you make with one or the other if you boosted it? I've seen what f22 does on boost but that's not what were talking about. That's still more displacement than a d so that kinda defeats that argument.

exnissanguy · Post by **exnissanguy** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:15 pm

Turtle_Civic;284784 wrote:Yea decent power. Now how much would you make with one or the other if you boosted it? I've seen what f22 does on boost but that's not what were talking about. That's still more displacement than a d so that kinda defeats that argument.

Lol, i meant a turbo d......... The word displacement shouldnt even be brought up with honda engines lol.

5thgen · Post by **5thgen** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:45 pm

Turtle_Civic;284766 wrote:Id put my gsr swapped hatch against any turbo d putting down 180. That's sad. If i boosted my camaro it would be close to 500 to the wheels on same boost.

Yep.

I would get walked on by type r swapped hatches with my old coupe with a d16z6/greddy kit @ 10psi.

Rich · Post by **Rich** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:15 am

Turtle_Civic;284766 wrote:Id put my gsr swapped hatch against any turbo d putting down 180. That's sad. If i boosted my camaro it would be close to 500 to the wheels on same boost.

If its an LT1 less than 450whp with just a turbo slapped on..

If its an LS1 475whp MAX without valvespring upgrades and fuel upgrades... And thats at 8-9lbs.

N2HIFI · Post by **N2HIFI** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:06 am

Turtle_Civic;284784 wrote:Yea decent power. Now how much would you make with one or the other if you boosted it? I've seen what f22 does on boost but that's not what were talking about. That's still more displacement than a d so that kinda defeats that argument.

You do understand that if you put the same money into building a turbo D that this guy put into his built na H series you would have a 350-400 hp d series motor that would give you a run for your money in a 500hp camaro (traction being the deciding factor)

Ive had stock b's and turbo'd D's and for power vs money id take a turbo D all day long (mine made 250hp/230tq to the wheels on a stock bottom end on 10psi) now if i was building a fun street car and back rd car i'd take a bolt on B series all day. Different set ups for differnt folks and use's but to say a turbo'd wouldnt make more power then a bolt on b series is not correct.

Rich · Post by **Rich** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:13 am

N2HIFI;284818 wrote:You do understand that if you put the same money into building a turbo D that this guy put into his built na H series you would have a 350-400 hp d series motor that would give you a run for your money in a 500hp camaro (traction being the deciding factor)

Ive had stock b's and turbo'd D's and for power vs money id take a turbo D all day long (mine made 250hp/230tq to the wheels on a stock bottom end on 10psi) now if i was building a fun street car and back rd car i'd take a bolt on B series all day. Different set ups for differnt folks and use's but to say a turbo'd wouldnt make more power then a bolt on b series is not correct.

Very true.

Though the same amount of money put into that camaro as was put into this H then the camaro would easily be over 500whp. But thats off subject. Its comparing apples to oranges.

While NA builds can be fun it takes more money to make typically less power...

N2HIFI · Post by **N2HIFI** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:16 am

Rich;284820 wrote:Very true.

Though the same amount of money put into that camaro as was put into this H then the camaro would easily be over 500whp. But thats off subject. Its comparing apples to oranges.

While NA builds can be fun it takes more money to make typically less power...

right rich and i agree ls1 over all for the most part, hence while im doing a lsi swap into my new 240 shell, but i was just debating the turbo d vs na b series .. both have their respective arguments and places.. honestly comparing either to a v8 powered car is really pointless in almost everybody's book lol

but now we talk a fully built h22 in a 2000lb hatchback ..with a hit ... that would be super fun IMHO

Rich · Post by **Rich** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:24 am

N2HIFI;284833 wrote:right rich and i agree ls1 over all for the most part, hence while im doing a lsi swap into my new 240 shell, but i was just debating the turbo d vs na b series .. both have their respective arguments and places.. honestly comparing either to a v8 powered car is really pointless in almost everybody's book lol

but now we talk a fully built h22 in a 2000lb hatchback ..with a hit ... that would be super fun IMHO

Definitely especially if its a high revving setup!

sharpie · Post by **sharpie** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:26 am

I built a n/a b series an with the money I spent I honestly could have built a 6-700whp b series but where is the fun in doing that lol