New to the forum....My 98 coupe True Street build

5thgen · Post by **5thgen** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:23 pm

Eh, we're just saying.....a gt30 won't even pull a torque curve like that.....not on a 2.0. It looks like a 3.0 supra dyno.

Its just out of the ordinary is all....raises red flags.

All in good fun though.....I couldn't imagine a "street" car without a 5th gear though....the interstate would suck.

RyanA · Post by **RyanA** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:10 am

I'm just saying this: Post your real dyno sheet. I'm saying that there is no way you are making THAT MUCH down low. Why would I say that? Well, because this K SERIES that make 923 whp is only making about 140 whp and 150 wtq at 4100 rpms:

And here is a 12:1 85x89 B series with GT35R. Low end still nowhere close to what your dyno sheet is saying. Maybe you just mixed up your dyno sheet? I think most people would like to see your full sheet (the one that revved higher). I know you have the turbo you say you do and the potential for the HP is definitely there (friend recently put down about 620 on E85 with his 2.0 sleeved stroker setup). Torque is just almost a dream down low.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:31 am

I'm sure all of those cars have large turbines on bigger housings. Quit cluttering the thread and let the track times this weekend talk. If anyone ever has nice shit..people bitch...everywhere. Just seems worse here? Delete you bullshit and leave my thread.

Waffles · Post by **Waffles** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:41 am

Can wait to see videos of the times you put down this weekend.

Just an FYI only posting scans/pics of the time slip wont prove anything to these guys.

Devilchrono · Post by **Devilchrono** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:42 pm

Garrett;261427 wrote:I'm sure all of those cars have large turbines on bigger housings. Quit cluttering the thread and let the track times this weekend talk. If anyone ever has nice shit..people bitch...everywhere. Just seems worse here? Delete you bullshit and leave my thread.

What, the guys that know something aren't allowed to ask questions about your setup cause things don't add up? They're just supposed to blindly believe you and suck your dick or something? Get over yourself already. The fact that you're so defensive just means that you've got something to hide here.

twkdcd595 · Post by **twkdcd595** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:58 pm

Ok I tried it constructively as possible and gave you opportunity to discuss it without just calling flat out bullshit but Ryan is right. That is not a dyno from your setup. I second the call of BS.

Look at any number of dynos anywhere, for example the 30 pages of B series with setups listed you can easily find on Evans tuning dyno vault and you will not find anything NEAR that kind of curve for a B series honda, with any turbo capable of mid 600whp. Hell like it was said by 5thgen, you dont see 30r setups doing that down low muchless a 4088r. Your ATP small T4 housing is not a special housing that changes the dynamics of how and where a B series makes power so radically, as it would have to for the posted sheet you have up to be accurate. A 4088r is a lazy bitch of a turbo, no housing (even a small a/r twin scroll) is changing that characteristic lag of that turbo so dramatically.
http://dynos.evans-tuning.com/categorie ... _type/and/

No one is commenting negatively about your car, you personally, or anything else other than your dyno sheet. In fact I believe there are a lot of compliments here about the car, setup, etc. Looks like it has plenty of potential as well. If I came off wrong... let me restate it again... looks nice as I said, glad to see someone building a higher hp setup, welcome to the forum. I just dont buy that being your sheet.

LOL, there is not a running conspiracy here against people with "nice shit". Sorry its not jdmcity.com or some other site full of blind ball swingers who don't ask questions when they see a dyno sheet thats looks out of place. In fact I read your thread over there about your 650whp goal and it really made me want to question the setups more... bore/ compression/ fuel setup/ etc you list here. Since it appeared you were on a stock sleeve lower compression motor up through the beginning of this year. I see you talked about a Laskey Racing built shortblock at some point though in the past, so in trying to keep an open mind I thought maybe you just rapidily updated your setup recently without updating that thread, as you had up until that point.

If that is your dyno and you do have other dyno sheets of this setup pulling to 8300 or whatever else, as you stipulated, post em up. I am all for being proven wrong, I would love to see that kind of curve be possible but everything I know/ read says its not right now. Also you keep claiming ignition problems, there is not sign of ignition break up on that sheet posted here... I know what it looks like and have experienced it. Even with smoothing on 5, a sheet wont hide breakup if its bad enough to stop a pull early.

Waffles is right, a scan of a slip is easily faked, I can get you a slip that says my car runs 7's if you want to post just scans of a slip itself.

ymisoqt · Post by **ymisoqt** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:24 pm

There is an easy way to settle this...http://www.stlhondas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20428&highlight=lowe

rickles8099 · Post by **rickles8099** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:41 pm

ymisoqt;261436 wrote:There is an easy way to settle this...http://www.stlhondas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20428&highlight=lowe

too late... hes done did been scared off....

twkdcd595 · Post by **twkdcd595** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:55 pm

What a shame, car showed potential. If he was sticking to his guns that was his sheet he could have easily backed it up with more information or replying at all to questions in some fashion, other than his response basically delete your "bullshit" and not ask questions.

Maybe it was a just a technical difficulty his original post was edited and all pictures removed.