Joe Legal and Jose Illegal

Diz · Post by **Diz** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:01 pm

Got this in an email the other day and thought I would share.

California is Broke

Basic Economics – here is why California is broke! Let me explain... There are two families. Joe Legal and Jose Illegal – Both families have two parents, two children, and they live in California.

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted – Jose Illegal also works construction, has NO Social Security number and gets paid $15.00 cash per hour “under the table.”

Joe Legal - $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week or $52,000 per year minus 30% away for state and federal taxes... Joe Legal now has $31,231.00 per year.

Jose Illegal - $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200 per year. Jose Illegal pays NO taxes out of his illegal $31,200.00 per year salary.

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month (in California) or $12,000 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00.

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the State of California and Local ‘City of Angels’ (L.A) Health Clinics at an annual cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has his $31,200.00 yearly salary.

Joe Legal makes too much money is therefore NOT eligible for Food Stamps or Welfare, so he pays for food at around $1,000.00 per month or $12,000 per year. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income therefore, he is eligible for Food Stamps and various forms of Welfare. Jose Illegal still has his $31,200.00 (Cha-Ching!).

Joe Legal pays also has a house payment of $1,000.00 per month or $12,000.00 per year and he is now in the hole to the tune of (-) $4,769.00.

Since Jose Illegal... Remember, has no documented income... He also receives a $500 per month Federal Rent Subsidy – this subsidy pays his rent at $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year – he still has $31,200.00 in his pocket.

Joe Legal sees this happening and realizes he has to figure out some way to make ends meet or he is going to lose his house – so... He now works as much overtime as he can. He finds a part time job on the weekends and evenings.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored breakfast and lunch.

Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home after school. Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Protection Services, but Joe Legal paid for them and Jose Illegal did not.

Joe Legal must repay educational loans for his children to go to college – Jose Illegal does not. Therefore Joe Legal cannot afford to send his children to College – JoseILLegal can!

California taxpayers (like Joe Legal) pay for all of Jose Illegal’s stuff. That totals over $42,000 in this example. So Jose Illegal has his $31,200 plus at least $42,000 of value received each year or the equivalent of $73,200 after tax income. Joe Legal is struggling and Jose Illegal leads a pretty good life.

And Voila – California is now broke, busted, and disgusted. And now, you and I will bail them out.

SweetEBPSi · Post by **SweetEBPSi** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:44 pm

I'm changing my name to Pablo.

freestyler01 · Post by **freestyler01** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:44 pm

nice post Diz.

SweetEBPSi;190613 wrote:I'm changing my name to Pablo.

My first name is Paolo. =p

SweetEBPSi · Post by **SweetEBPSi** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:22 pm

freestyler01;190625 wrote:nice post Diz.

My first name is Paolo. =p

Mine would be too if I were Messican. My actual name is Paul.

freestyler01 · Post by **freestyler01** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:25 pm

SweetEBPSi;190633 wrote:Mine would be too if I were Messican. My actual name is Paul.

Thing is I'm not "Messican". I'm Filipino and correct me if I'm wrong but I've been told a couple of times that I have an Italian name which doesn't make sense cause I'm asian. (Good job mom and dad?) lol

00siandrew · Post by **00siandrew** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:48 pm

That is so true and it's because of stupid ass people like Nancy Pelosi. For some reason they make the argument that because they are people they deserve American rights and since they are in our country we should make accomodations to make them feel welcome. Screw amnesty, throw them back in their own country after punishing them by forcing them bo build our wall.

kleancut · Post by **kleancut** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:24 pm

man, fuck.

RyanA · Post by **RyanA** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:02 pm

Gotta love it. What other country could WE go to and get the same treatment? NONE. Guess America just wants to have that "baller status" so they just give crap away. I never have understood why we have all these infomercials about helping people overseas. Screw that. Make sure all of the people in your home country are up to par before you go giving money and food to others. Yes, I understand there are people dying in those countries due to starvation and disease. Guess what? It's happening right here in the US, too.

Here's what I believe:

If someone that is not a US citizen is in the US, they should be given a time limit on how long they can be here PER YEAR. Let's say 4 weeks just in case they get 4 weeks of vacation. After the 4 weeks, you are not allowed to re enter the US unless you are a business person doing business with the US.

If Jose is working in the US, he needs to be paying taxes. I think that Jose should have to prove he is making money and paying taxes before he can "reap the benefits". No proof of taxes paid? No benefits.

Total household income should be considered when giving out "free money". If there are 15 of them living in a house and each makes 10,000 a year, that is $150,000 household income. They should not be entitled to anything that lower income people get.

LEARN TO FUCKING SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!! If you want to live here, act like it. Learn to speak the language that the US does or go home. ESL my ass! It should be EFL.... You can speak your language when you go back to your home country.

Yes, I could go on and on. It really pisses me off because if you go to the McDonald's in Camdenton, MO, you will notice that probably 80% of the staff is probably not truly legal. Dale should know what I mean as I'm pretty sure he went through the drive through. I think that companies that employ illegals should be severely penalized. For instance: If John employs 3 illegals and gets caught, he should have to pay a fine that is equal to the difference between the illegal and a legal's pay rate AND have to pay what benefits would have cost for the legal. We need to level the playing field. Our damn economy is down the tubes. We need to keep US money in the US, not send it to Mexico for their families....

Diz · Post by **Diz** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:26 pm

I agree with RyanA....

Freek · Post by **Freek** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:01 pm

i totally agree ryan. I just started this new job. There are only couple that speak english. One of my supervisors cant speak english hardly at all. I'm giving them a resume today for supervisor trainee. I'm already tired of getting trained by someone that cant even talk to me. They point everything out...