Ok well now im pissed....

[Silver Knight]

I have read of b's making 250hp on stock sleeves and blow and I have read of h's making 350hp on stock sleeves and being fine. Its how you build it.

you're right about that if your doing an N/A build. Turbo, now thats a whole different ballpark.

[99PreludeSh]

Its all about how you tune the motor not build it.. there are plenty of people at 500hp on stock sleeves.. The sleeves come down to the tune.. and for the price of swapping in an h you can swap and build a b to make twice as much power.

Sorry I meant tune, but I dont see how price is in effect here, if you look hard enough you can make just as much power on each motor for the same amount, its just that people want to find parts right away and dont look for the deals. On preludepower someone had an h22 and turbod it for $1500 and ran a 12.6.

[5thgen]

avg. b series stock motor (good street power) is around 300whp. I imagine you could push the envelope more and still last for a good bit of time.

Motors can blow at 180whp.....they'll stay together at 550whp (all major internals stock). Just a matter of a good setup and a good tune.

[b18b-t]

Sorry I meant tune, but I dont see how price is in effect here, if you look hard enough you can make just as much power on each motor for the same amount, its just that people want to find parts right away and dont look for the deals. On preludepower someone had an h22 and turbod it for $1500 and ran a 12.6.

Yeah in a prelude right? Its not just a direct swap like the b's are for the civics and integra's. Don't get me wrong the h22's are great motors,but the b's have been perfected over the years and are alot cheaper to swap.

[b18b-t]

Motors can blow at 180whp.....they'll stay together at 550whp (all major internals stock). Just a matter of a good setup and a good tune.

Couldn't have said it better myself! :foshizzle:

[99PreludeSh]

Yeah in a prelude right? Its not just a direct swap like the b's are for the civics and integra's. Don't get me wrong the h22's are great motors, .. The b's have been perfected over the years and are alot cheaper to swap.

Actually no it was in an ef, it can be done for a very low price if you know what your doing.

[b18b-t]

Actually no it was in an ef, it can be done for a very low price if you know what your doing.

Thats true, but most of the people dont know how to weld and make custom adjustments, so they pay to have it done. And its almost impossible with 1500 to swap in an H and build a turbo kit, have it tuned, etc. You would have to be a god of sorts.

[99PreludeSh]

Thats true, but most of the people dont know how to weld and make custom adjustments, so they pay to have it done. And its almost impossible with 1500 to swap in an H and build a turbo kit, have it tuned, etc. You would have to be a god of sorts.

I dont see how its impossible if you have the motor and tranny and do EVERYTHING yourself, its possible. Ask the crx guys a homemade turbo is not that much, just search around a little bit.

[b18b-t]

I dont see how its impossible if you have the motor and tranny and do EVERYTHING yourself, its possible. Ask the crx guys a homemade turbo is not that much, just search around a little bit.

i don't need to search. I am the king of homemade turbo setups :blunt: I am simply stating if your looking to go fast in a civic or integra; b's are the way to go. Cheaper, thicker stock sleeves, better trannys, and lighter.

[99PreludeSh]

i don't need to search. I am the king of homemade turbo setups :blunt: I am simply stating if your looking to go fast in a civic or integra; b's are the way to go. Cheaper, thicker stock sleeves, better trannys, and lighter.

AND once again

And thats where everyones opinions come into play. If we didnt have different opinions the world would be VERY boring.